Surviving the Economic Fallout of the Covid-19 Crisis with Lance Iunker

Chris Albert 00:00:00 (link to this point)

This is Chris Albert, and I'm here to remind you of one thing. Someday, you're going to die. Now that's not some morbid statement or scary idea. It's solid fact. Your time here on this earth is limited.

We need to be reminded of this as much as possible for one simple reason, to live your best life while you can. This is the Warrior Soul Podcast. You know, one of the themes that this podcast has always been based around is the idea that hard times breed hard people. When you are faced with a challenge, you will learn so much by facing that challenge, by working to overcome that challenge, and even by making mistakes in trying to overcome that challenge. And right now, today's date is 03/26/2020, We are several days into a national crisis.

People are getting laid off from work. People are getting furloughed. And we are in a situation where a lot of us, who are of working age, have a very uncertain future. Given the gravity of the circumstances, one thing I want to convey to you is this. This is not a time for us to shrink from the challenges in front of us.

This is a time where we all need to step up, and this is also not a time for false pride. If you are the type of person who is constantly telling yourself that you're a self starter, that you are somebody who is going to do all this and weather the storm on your own, that's not the right thing to do. This is a time where we all need to come together. This is a time where we all need to help each other, especially as veterans. The generations that came before us did not weather the storm alone.

They weathered the storm shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand, working to put this country back on track after it fell out of place. That's what we all need to focus on right now. And so what I am trying to do as this crisis unfolds and as as it keeps going is to provide you with resources to be able to do so. Each week I am going to be talking to somebody who is versed in the different resources out there for the veteran community. And today, I'm speaking to Lance Iunker.

Lance is a combat veteran who served in the US army, and then he went through a lot of seemingly insurmountable troubles after he got out. But by utilizing the resources that were given to him, he was able to get himself back on track. Today, he works for the California Department of Veteran Affairs. He's coming on today to talk about different resources that you can take advantage of right now. Both employment resources, we're going to have a list of different employment opportunities from companies that are hiring at the moment, and also assistance.

And the links for all this stuff are gonna be on the show notes for this episode. We had a conversation about the situation. We talked about different things that you can do, but none of this is gonna work unless you guys utilize it. So please do me a favor. Regardless of of what state you're in, if you if you think you're secure right now, if you if you think you're in a little bit of trouble, please share these resources out.

Please share the link to the show notes out. Please share this episode out. And that's not just because I'm trying to get more downloads on the podcast. It's because we are in a crisis right now, and the only way we're going to get through it is together. I invite you to listen to this episode, I invite you to take advantage of these resources, and I invite you to help your brothers and sisters and neighbors out by providing them with these resources that we're about to give you.

So with that, let's get into this episode with Lance Iunker of the California State Department of Veterans Affairs, and I hope you're all well. I'm praying for everybody, and let's overcome this thing together. Lance, welcome to the show, man.

Lance Iunker 00:05:02 (link to this point)

Hey. Thanks for having me, Chris. I've listened to your show for for quite a while now, and I'm just really honored and thankful to be on there, on your show. So thank you.

Chris Albert 00:05:13 (link to this point)

Yeah, man. Just so people know who you are, can you give me just kind of a one to three minute synopsis of of your background and and where you're coming from?

Lance Iunker 00:05:25 (link to this point)

Yeah. I'll do my best. So so my name is Lance Iunker. I was actually wounded in Iraq in 2007 during the surge. I was with the 82nd Airborne airborne infantry and ended up getting wounded real bad.

Spent about ten months recovering in the hospital and then got out and, you know, I've kinda walked the path of a lot of a lot of us veterans, especially, you know, after being wounded and kind of, you know, figuring out life and dealing with all kinds of physical and mental, you know, stuff that we that we go through and ended up just kind of a a full circle story here. So I, you know, I'd gotten married after I got out of the military. I was medically retired, You know, I was was depressed, was unemployed for for probably five or six months, the first five months of our marriage. And, you know, finally, my my wife kinda drug me to this. It was a CalVet, California Department of Veteran Affairs who I work for now, drug me to this thing, this event put on by them.

And we we sat down and, you know, we're surrounded by mostly, you know, Vietnam veterans, and they're kind of getting real disgruntled. And the guy leading it was actually the secretary of the California Department of Veteran Affairs. And, you know, they're kinda yelling at him and stuff, and I was just looking at my wife. I'm like, I I gotta get out of here. And so I stood up, and he actually addressed me and said, hey, young man.

Could you please sit down? I really like to, you know, help you, and and we're almost done here. I'm like, are you serious? I sat there, and he came up. And the first thing he did was he he handed me some In-N-Out gift cards, and he said he said, hey.

You know, we really put on this event for for you guys. You know, it was was for the guys that are just getting back, you know, from Iraq and Afghanistan. And he ended up helping me, getting me plugged in. It was a program called Operation Welcome Home that governor Schwarzenegger had stood up back then. And I ended up being, like, the first veteran through this program.

He helped me I'd owned a home at the time, helped me, like, kinda keep that, got me a job training soldiers all over the country as a contractor, and then got me my GI bill, which they had originally denied me. They said, you know, I didn't complete my full term of service or whatever, but they didn't the paperwork didn't match up that I was, you know, combat wounded in the line of duty, all that. So, anyway, help me through, you know, all these different things that were kind of huge, you know, stressors in my life. And I I kinda became the first success story through Operation Welcome Home, which led me to working for governor Schwarzenegger as, like, a veteran representative. So I went to DC several times at his office, you know, talking with, you know, pretty much all the senators and representatives and, you know, the Pentagon, the White House, you know, you name it.

We we went there and talked about Operation Welcome Home and and how other states, you know, could help veterans in a similar way. Long story short, you know, got my got my degree in political science using the GI Bill from Cal Poly, ended up working in the nonprofit sector for probably the last eight or nine years where, I did, like, some research, studies on PTSD and, neurofeedback therapy and other different modalities. And then, worked for another nonprofits for quite a few years, of running the West Coast side of things. And then just kinda randomly moved down to San Diego almost two years ago to have our baby girl. And my wife is from San Diego, so she wanted to be near her family.

And I was looking for new employment, and they were hiring for the LINC position, which was one of the positions that really had helped me out, you know, over ten years ago. So I ended up becoming the San Diego LINC, which is the local interagency network coordinator. There's only eight of us throughout California that kinda oversee the CalVet stuff from, like, the local perspective. And so we are basically the outreach guys for for guys and gals for for the state. And, you know, we try and get to know all of the federal, state, local, entities and players in the veterans community.

And especially down here in San Diego with the, with the eight different military installations, a lot of my job is helping those in the service transition out, whether they're separating medically, just separating, or there's retiring. So I teach a bunch of classes at the at the military bases down in San Diego and really get to work with just over 250 different organizations down here that, you know, support veterans and military. So it's pretty pretty great. And I guess that goes kind of into why you asked me to be on this episode and share some pretty valuable information.

Chris Albert 00:10:47 (link to this point)

Yeah. I wanna get into that because today is March 26. We are several days into this situation where the country is little literally shut down because of COVID-19, the coronavirus. And, you know, there's a lot of veterans out there who are currently being furloughed Yep. And laid off.

A lot of people in general. But I think this is gonna hit the veteran population really, really hard Mhmm. Because a lot of veterans come from sectors where they are gonna be apt to be laid off, and they're gonna be apt to be furloughed. And so the reason why I wanted to bring you on today was to discuss different possibilities and different sectors that are currently hiring in the midst of this crisis. Yeah.

Because I wanna make sure that that, you know, we get as many veterans back into the workforce as quickly as possible to be able to weather this storm. So, Lance, what are you hearing out there as far as this goes? What what are you seeing out there as far as Yeah. Different sectors that might be hiring and and different companies that might be hiring?

Lance Iunker 00:12:05 (link to this point)

Yeah. Definitely. So the eight of us LINCs who are spread out through California, we've actually been fielding every single phone call that the California Department of Veteran Affairs gets through headquarters. So headquarters is totally shut down in Sacramento. You know, usually, there's a big team that, you know, fields these calls.

So it's getting pushed out to the eight of us who have state cell phones, and we're fielding these calls. So it's it's what's good about it is that the eight of us really get to understand what the veterans and the military, you know, needs are. You know? And and, honestly, when this first started, I was still getting phone calls, you know, the fur I guess, the first few days, you know, we're still like, how do I get veteran put on my California driver's license? How do I get, you know, this discount or that discount?

And quickly, by the end of the first week of this lockdown, you know, that a lot of the calls had shifted shifted to, you know, hey. I'm getting laid off or my hours are getting reduced. You know, what are is there anything out there that can help me and that kind of stuff? So I guess the the the good thing that's come out of it for me is I really get to kind of have my, you know, finger on the pulse. And it's not just been locally down here in San Diego, but all over the state.

And I know you have listeners nationally, so I definitely wanna talk about some of those too. But as far as, like, you know, jobs go and and hiring, you know, I kind of encourage all of your listeners who might be in need of this to be to be talking, to be sharing. You know, every every locality is gonna be different and have different employers and stuff like that. But some of the, you know, big nationwide things that are happening and some of these obviously are temporary, and that's what that's what we need right now. But the census, you know, 2020 census is still trying to hire, like, a gob of veterans.

So I think they wanted to hire something like 5,000 or 10,000 veterans nationally. So I sent you a link there for veterans. Amazon is obviously, you know, not being destroyed by this crisis like a lot of other industries are. They're hiring and constantly hiring. So that might be something any of the, you know, food delivery services, Grubhub, Uber Eats, you know, stuff like that, Walmart, Kroger.

And then CVS put out this big, huge CVS Health, they wanna hire 50,000 new hires, and it's this accelerated hiring program. So, yeah, they wanna hire 50,000 people, and this isn't just, you know, health workers. It's it's basically anybody. And, you know, they really that's that's kind of a huge one that I can put out right now. You know, EDD is a department in California that handles all of the unemployment insurance and all that kind of stuff.

They've you know, basically, all these departments are are, you know, basically shut down as far as the brick and mortar and doors to the public go. So but they're all trying to switch over, you know, to doing virtual stuff, telephone calls, that kind of thing. So they've they've put out a resource that I gave you as well that, you know, basically shows how to apply. So if you've lost your job, how to apply for that unemployment. It's pretty easy, you know, online.

And there's a bunch of other, you know, relief stuff that I'll get into in a minute as well. But it's time it's kinda time for, you know, veterans and and military and everybody really who's being affected by this to start getting really creative. You know? We gotta start, you know, really looking outside the box, I guess, and seeing, you know, where needs are. I even got a I even got a email.

I'm not sure if you got this, but the the army specifically is looking to rehire or or have them, you know, join the fold again, anyone who's retired in the medical field. So they're they're looking to see if if anyone who's retired or separated in those fields is willing to come back, you know, to help with this if need be.

Chris Albert 00:16:32 (link to this point)

Yeah. I I know a few guys who are interested in trying to reenlist right now.

Lance Iunker 00:16:37 (link to this point)

Yeah.

Chris Albert 00:16:37 (link to this point)

You know? And and that's the the that's interesting news. And then, you know, think we're at a time period now where whatever sector you're in, it's it's not really gonna matter. You know, the point is to try to get people employment, try to get people money in the bank so that they could pay their bills.

Lance Iunker 00:17:00 (link to this point)

And Yep.

Chris Albert 00:17:00 (link to this point)

You know, we like you said, we've all gotta be a little bit creative here. I I think there are gonna be opportunities coming down the pike. But for right now, we just gotta figure out how to get through the next, you know, however many weeks Yeah. This situation's gonna last. Right?

Lance Iunker 00:17:18 (link to this point)

Totally. A 100%. And, you know, this is this is how the COVID crisis is is affecting kind of our generation of veterans. But we have a massive, especially in California, massive aging veteran population who's, you know, gonna be affected in in in two major ways. One is, you know, how the economy is, you know, seemingly tanking, you know, with their retirement and all that kind of stuff.

But then you gotta take into consideration a lot of veterans have, you know, multiple health related issues. One of the things you and I have in common, you know, is inflammatory bowel disease, you know, things like that. But a lot of these aging population of veterans, you know, have multiple health issues, agent orange, you know, issues, And, you know, they're kind of a, you know, a a I guess, more at risk than than a lot of the population. So it's prob these things could potentially, you know, really affect the veteran population throughout the entire, you know, demographic no matter what age that you are. So, you know, CalVet has actually eight retirement homes throughout California.

These are you've heard of veteran homes of California. And, you know, trying to keep this thing out of those homes is just, you know, paramount as far as, you know, this thing spreading and and taking such a toll like it did in Seattle at that retirement home. So that's that's another way, you know, that this thing, you know, could really affect our veteran community.

Chris Albert 00:19:00 (link to this point)

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's brutal as far as what happened up there in Washington. And I think, you know, it's obviously, everybody wants to remain healthy and, you know, a a lot of veterans who are currently, you know, disabled in one way or another.

Lance Iunker 00:19:17 (link to this point)

Yeah.

Chris Albert 00:19:19 (link to this point)

The prospect of of getting a physical labor job may not be an option for for a lot of people. Right? Totally. You know, are there are there opportunities out there for for veterans to work from home?

Lance Iunker 00:19:32 (link to this point)

Yeah. I mean, there's so much I mean, every everyone in at least in California, right, is going to that telework. So, you know, when I was saying to kinda be creative, you know, think about those things. What are the industries what are the the different companies that are probably, you know, receiving like, if you're switching over your entire business basically to, like, a telework type, you know, work from home, you know, situation, you know, really be thinking about what are the industries like I was talking about, you know, food delivery or or, you know, even defense, you know, all these kinds of different industries who are switching over. And even in the medical field, right, they're they're not having you just go to the ER if you have symptoms.

You know, you're gonna call first. You're gonna get checked out, you know, by a nurse who's working from home, you know, doing a Zoom type thing, you know, a Skype type thing. So there's there's there's in times like this where where, you know, a lot of us are are seemingly losing you know, it seems like the world's crumbling. There's always gonna be opportunity in that chaos, and and it kind of is gonna affect veterans in, like, one of two ways. Just like it would, I guess, any anybody.

But you're either gonna let it control you. Right? And let your PTSD go wild and, you know, all these different issues that I deal with too. Right? Anxiety, fear, you know, all these different things.

You could let that take hold and and let it just basically eat you up, you know, or you really can kind of embrace the chaos in a way, kind of like we did when we were in the military. And, you know, as long as, you know, friends and family aren't getting, you know, you know, hurt or taken down by this, you know, you really can embrace this. And almost, like, I think a couple of your shows have been, like, you know, how can you grow during this time. Right?

Chris Albert 00:21:33 (link to this point)

Right.

Lance Iunker 00:21:35 (link to this point)

And one of the ways that I would really encourage veterans, and I'm not sure if you've already talked about this, but veterans in military, we have this kind of a hard time asking for help. Right? And it's kind of a it's kind of a funny stigma that we have because, you know, we're gonna do it ourselves, you know, self made man or self made woman, you know, kind of, like, mentality, but we weren't loners in the military. You know, you you were very dependent on everyone around you, you know, your chain of command, logistics. No matter what kind of job you had in the military, you know, you were reliant on a lot of people.

And when we were going after high value targets in Baghdad, you know, we had so much support and so we relied so heavily on everything, communications, you know, eyes in the sky. You know, we we relied on each other. And that's something when we get out, we almost kind of lose. Right? We're like, well, I've got this.

I've handled everything. You know, I've done this all. I'm gonna do it on my own. I'm gonna get through this. But there's there's absolutely nothing wrong with, you know, if you've lost your job, you know, getting on unemployment, looking for, you know, more work, asking for help.

You know, again, I wanna talk about a couple different, like, kind of emergency relief type, you know, organizations that can help during this time. But there's not there's absolutely nothing nothing wrong with that. And

Chris Albert 00:23:07 (link to this point)

Well, yeah, man. And and this is one thing I wanna I wanna emphasize here. Yeah. This is this is not a time for pride. Yeah.

It's not a time to hold up and isolate yourself. It is not a time to to shrink from what's in front of us right now. Yes. You know, as veterans and and particularly our generation of veterans, it's not just the fact that we're we're veterans. It's our age right now.

You know, we're talking people from the age of of, you know, late twenties all the way up to early fifties. And it's our generation of men and women that put this country back together after every crisis.

Lance Iunker 00:23:48 (link to this point)

Totally.

Chris Albert 00:23:49 (link to this point)

And and or our age. And, you know, we can't shrink from this thing.

Lance Iunker 00:23:55 (link to this point)

Yeah.

Chris Albert 00:23:55 (link to this point)

This is not just our own futures, but the future of our society that hangs in the balance. And in my mind, this is a time for all of us to really step up. And stepping up doesn't necessarily mean that that, you know, you're earning 6 figures or anything like that. It means we're all doing the work necessary to put society back together.

Lance Iunker 00:24:16 (link to this point)

Totally. Totally. And, you know, just kinda, you know, again, like that opportunity and chaos. Right? This could you could position yourself to to come out ahead, you know, after all this is done.

And, you know, by taking those steps and, again, you know, even asking for help. Right? So there's there's a lot of veterans who, you know, have never filled a claim out, you know, with the VA. And whether it's pride or they don't think they deserve it or whatever, you know, that that money, even if it's only a few $100 a month, would be helpful right now. You know?

And, unfortunately, you know, that backlog of getting your claims done is only getting worse as it's switching over, you know, to being all, you know, telecommunication. And, hopefully, you know, they're they're throwing tons of resources at that. But but, you know, really, that's that's one way, you know, is filing a claim for service connected. You know, I don't like calling it disabilities, but, you know, anything service service related, you know, that that you're having, you know, issues with, definitely, you know, get the and to go kind of to talk about that a little bit, I sent you a link to the California County Veterans Service office, basically, like, directory. And you can click on that, and you can see every every county pretty much every county in California has an office or multiple offices.

Like, LA has, like, 22 offices. San Diego has, like, six or seven, you know, just in those counties. And all of these all of these offices now are, you know, taking calls, you know, over over the phone and doing virtual meetings and stuff, and you can fill out, you know, claims. They can help you do basically any benefit that you need. They know the local landscape, that kind of stuff.

So make sure that you're calling. Make sure you're being resourceful. And then also just veterans in general, you know, typically, do a good job of sharing information with each other. So make sure that, you know, you're sharing. If you know of an opportunity, pass it along.

You know, help each other out. Let's be a team. Let's get through this together. Let's take care of ourselves and each other and our families. And, you know, don't don't be afraid to to ask for help.

And if you can't ask for help, call it something else. You know? Call name it something else. But until you until you've been helped yourself, you really don't fully understand what it's like to actually help someone else. And veterans really love helping other people, but, you know, make sure that you get the help that you need as as well.

And, you know, it's kind of a full circle thing.

Chris Albert 00:27:05 (link to this point)

Awesome. Awesome. Now as far as everything goes, so I'm one of the things I'm gonna do along with this podcast is is I'm gonna be posting links up that people have shared with me about different job opportunities that are out there, different organizations that are hiring right now. On an assistance level, where where can people go Yeah. To to, you know, get some guidance, maybe get their resumes brushed up, and and potentially get some aid if they need it immediately.

Lance Iunker 00:27:41 (link to this point)

Yeah. So let's talk about some of the kind of emergency relief things. So there's actually this this national organization, the PenFed Foundation. It's a emergency financial relief program, and it's created for veterans and active duty service members. And it's and reserves and National Guard and, basically, you know, everyone everyone of us.

You know, any type of financial setback due to the negative economic effects or from COVID-19 itself. There's these, you know, grants that the PenFed Foundation is giving out. There there's different there's different grants, but one of them is, like, a one month payment of $1,500, and it can help in any area from rent, mortgage, auto loan, lease, utilities, you know, any anything that you can think of, you know, to help support. That's a pretty easy one to apply to online. I gave you that link.

You'll have it in your in your blog or the notes of this thing. Basically, all you need is, like, your DD214 and probably, you know, some different, know, identity, you know, like, driver's license, you know, or or bill, you know, something like that. So that's a that's a pretty that's a pretty good one that anyone nationally can can do. I know of a couple in San Diego specifically or actually in in Southern California. So if you live in San Diego, San Bernardino, Orange County, Los Angeles, Ventura, Riverside, Kern, or Imperial County, there is an amazing program called STEP, support the enlisted project.

And one of the things you gotta remember, right, is there hasn't been any stop loss calls yet. So people people are still getting out of the military, like, right now. They're getting out of this, you know, somewhat safe structure and getting, you know, dumped out right now. And STEP will support any, you know, E-1 through E-6 active duty or honorably discharged veteran who's been discharged within the last eighteen months. And they do everything from, you know, helping, you know, with resume to emergency relief, getting your finances right.

They've got a whole, you know, curriculum on the whole financial, side of getting everything right. So whether you're in or whether you've gotten out within the last year and a half, that's an option that's that's really great step, support the enlisted project. And then, you know, every every county in California, and then I'll say, I guess, nationwide, every state should have I I shouldn't say every state. Most states have a veteran affairs department. So it's not the the federal VA.

It's a state, you know, like California Department of Veteran Affairs, which they call themselves CalVet, which I work for. Right? Each one of those has, you know, their own knowledge base of what's going on in the state. So if you call them, you know, they're gonna they're gonna know a lot of details where you're living, you know, who, you know, who's maybe potentially hiring, who you know, what organizations are out there. I mentioned, you know, earlier that San Diego alone has over 250 veteran service organizations.

Most of those are nonprofits. They're all working, you know, 100% right now to help veterans. So there there's so much that you can find, you know, under the surface. But, you know, calling the county veteran service offices, calling your state, you know, VA. Those are great places to start to really learn about what's going on and what kind of help there is to provide you in your area.

Chris Albert 00:31:44 (link to this point)

Awesome. Awesome. Well, Lance, you know, number one, wanna thank you for coming on today, man.

Lance Iunker 00:31:51 (link to this point)

Yeah.

Chris Albert 00:31:51 (link to this point)

Thank you. We're we're gonna have all this information up on the show notes for everybody. And, you know, I I just want to acknowledge you that, you know, thank you for for taking the time with us and also for, you know, dedicating your professional career to helping the community, man.

Lance Iunker 00:32:10 (link to this point)

Yeah. Absolutely. You know? And it's it's I guess, it's it's easy to, you know, preach from a place of, you know, comfort and security. And so, you know, I hope I didn't come off, you know, that way at all.

I know that, you know, we're very fortunate to have, you know, like, a state job, but even that, you know, I mean, furloughs are definitely coming if this thing, you know, lasts a long time. So any sense of, you know, looking out at other people and going, oh, well, you know, they have, like, a secure position or whatever. I mean, we're all vulnerable to this. We're all kind of in the same boat, and, we all just need to help each other and and, get through this, and we'll be better for it on the other side.

Chris Albert 00:32:52 (link to this point)

Yeah. No. And that's a good point. No matter no matter what sector you're in, if the shutdown continues, I mean, health care workers who might not be in the the the areas where they're actually going to be directly taking care of these patients. Totally.

I mean, could even be potential furlough. So I think it's important we all know about these resources and that we keep them accessible for everybody.

Lance Iunker 00:33:20 (link to this point)

100%. Yeah. Let me know how I can help in the weeks and months, you know.

Chris Albert 00:33:26 (link to this point)

Absolutely. Absolutely. And as long as this crisis goes on, we're gonna be making this to weekly segment where we're gonna be bringing people on to talk about this stuff. And we're gonna keep this running list of resources going for as long as I'm able to power this podcast while this whole thing goes on.

Lance Iunker 00:33:42 (link to this point)

Yeah. Well, awesome. Yeah. Thank you for everything you do, you know, for veterans in the military. I know that it's, you know, helped me out in the past, and I hope in the future I can come back on and maybe we can be in a little happier note and, you know, share some stories or whatever.

Chris Albert 00:34:00 (link to this point)

100%, man. 100%. And to everybody out there, thank you so much.

Lance Iunker 00:34:06 (link to this point)

Alright.

Chris Albert 00:34:08 (link to this point)

You can find and and and sort of that that are good for don't prideful. Reach out, guys. If you're out there and you're alone, let us know. Reach out to us. And, you know, I'm Alright, guys.

So there you have it. That's our conversation with Lance Iunker of the California State Department of Veterans Affairs. Whether you're in California or not, these resources will apply to you. We're gonna have links to all of these resources up on the show notes for this episode at www.warriorsoulagoge, that's agoge.com. Listen, guys, as I said during the podcast, this is not a time to isolate yourself.

If you are feeling isolated, if you were feeling trapped, please reach out. Please check on your brothers and sisters in arms. Make some phone calls. Try to check on somebody every day. And again, please share these resources out whether or not you're gonna use them for yourself.

Again, I am praying for every single one of you. And you know we're all in this together. This podcast I am going to try to continue to power until I can't do it anymore. Right now we're being affected very badly economically and you know I'm not going to be the type of person who puts up a donate button or anything like that. I'm going to figure this thing out.

But you know we are we're in a bit of a situation here as well. So like I said, we're all in this together. I am going to do my best to help you through this and, if you need anything at all, please please reach out. I I I'm available on instant message on Instagram, or you can email email me directly at chris@warriorsoulagoge.com. Thank you guys so much.

I'll be back at you soon with some more awesome content. Live your best lives while you can, no matter what's going on, and I'll talk to you soon.